Frost and Fire
  
     Robin Griggs: Melodeon
    
      Robin Griggs: Melodeon
      John Foreman: guitars, keyboards & percussion
      Jayne Bowd: violin (tracks 4 & 8)
    
  
  
    You can play or download the tracks:
    
      - On The Beach
- Running Out
- Moving On
- Kick in the Cooleys
- Summer of '97
- Don't Watch
- (title unknown)
- Cataluna
- The Train
- The Meeting
- Frost and Fire
- Down and Out
- Moving On
Music by Robin Griggs and John Foreman
  See also 
  John 
  Foreman's Soundcloud Playlists for new reworked versions and some extra 
  tracks.
  
Rob
John Foreman's tribute to Rob and the story of how "Frost and Fire" was made.
I joined Yaxley Morris (subsequently morphing into Pig Dyke Molly) just after 
the New Year in 1992.  My then girlfriend was friends with Chris Kempton and 
we got invited along. It wasn’t long before I was getting up at the crack of 
dawn on May Days, chasing rolling cheese through the streets of Stilton and 
helping the side out with their version of Cambridge Footlights, for the next 
7 years.
I had played in bands of one sort or another for the best part of 20 odd years 
and provided PA for the Ely Folk Festival, for 9 years, since its inception in 
1985 and the one thing that struck me the most, were the uncommonly 
inspirational tunes played by Rob, most of which, I was fascinated to find 
out, were written by Rob himself. As a drummer, I was more than impressed with 
his ability to keep time without any other “rhythm” section.
It wasn’t long before we got chatting and it was clear I had found a kindred 
spirit, as Rob was not only in the “Folk” scene but had a passion, equal to 
mine, for progressive rock music. (myself having been to Newcastle Uni in ’71 
and been exposed to everything from Lindisfarne to Yes!). I had played drums 
in rock bands for years but had always taken my “solo” guitar down to the 
folk clubs.
During subsequent conversations, Rob told me he really wanted to do some 
recording, to create a library of the dance tunes and also to work on a 
project together, to try and fuse melodeon based tunes with a sort of 
progressive feel. We started jamming together, where I discovered that 
Rob was entirely self-taught and was unaware of any music “theory” which would 
often get him into hot water with Morris purists but fitted quite perfectly 
into what we started to call “Prog Morris” and his feel for what fitted a tune 
(or mood) I have never heard, on the melodeon, since.  It wasn’t until 1996 
that I acquired suitable recording tech to make the plan a reality and over 
the next couple of years, we tried out various things and sometimes, like a 
lot of “studio” sessions, a jam session resulted in something worth “putting 
down”. We had several sessions with Jayne Bowd (on fiddle) and occasionally 
Jon Fox on recorders (he could make them really sing!). Eventually we had 
enough work down for an album and the concept of Frost & Fire was born. Sadly, 
I personally had gone through a bit of a rough patch and had to leave 
Peterborough for work, so the tunes never got mastered and some not even 
finished, so Rob was left with some mixed down tapes and not the digitally 
mastered finals we had envisioned.   
Undeterred, Rob pressed on and digitally processed the tapes and produced 
fantastic artwork (as was his wont). The 
result was “Frost and Fire”. He sent me a couple of copies of the CD in 2003 
and little did I know he would leave us just 5 short years later. Something 
I didn’t actually find out until 2020, in the middle of the COVID pandemic.  
At the same time as finding out Rob had passed, Tony got in touch to tell me 
he had found a couple of CDs of Rob playing short snippets of some of his 
dance tunes (Well 25 to be factual!). Clearly the “library” Rob was hoping 
to create. When Tony sent them up to me, strangely they had only been recorded 
on the left-hand side. After sorting out the sidedness, I was inspired to 
write some arrangements and the result is “Shorts” another CD.  I also 
remastered the Frost & Fire album and was able to finish it the way Rob and 
I had intended. I wonder if 20 years to finish an album is some kind of 
record? It will be to my lasting regret that Rob will not hear them.  It has 
been an absolute privilege to have known such an outstanding “natural” 
musician and to have been able to do something to preserve his legacy. I will 
miss my friend and tunesmith.
John Foreman
 
    John Foreman: guitars, keyboards & percussion
Jayne Bowd: violin (tracks 4 & 8)
- On The Beach
- Running Out
- Moving On
- Kick in the Cooleys
- Summer of '97
- Don't Watch
- (title unknown)
- Cataluna
- The Train
- The Meeting
- Frost and Fire
- Down and Out
- Moving On
See also John Foreman's Soundcloud Playlists for new reworked versions and some extra tracks.
Rob
John Foreman's tribute to Rob and the story of how "Frost and Fire" was made.I joined Yaxley Morris (subsequently morphing into Pig Dyke Molly) just after the New Year in 1992. My then girlfriend was friends with Chris Kempton and we got invited along. It wasn’t long before I was getting up at the crack of dawn on May Days, chasing rolling cheese through the streets of Stilton and helping the side out with their version of Cambridge Footlights, for the next 7 years.
I had played in bands of one sort or another for the best part of 20 odd years and provided PA for the Ely Folk Festival, for 9 years, since its inception in 1985 and the one thing that struck me the most, were the uncommonly inspirational tunes played by Rob, most of which, I was fascinated to find out, were written by Rob himself. As a drummer, I was more than impressed with his ability to keep time without any other “rhythm” section.
It wasn’t long before we got chatting and it was clear I had found a kindred spirit, as Rob was not only in the “Folk” scene but had a passion, equal to mine, for progressive rock music. (myself having been to Newcastle Uni in ’71 and been exposed to everything from Lindisfarne to Yes!). I had played drums in rock bands for years but had always taken my “solo” guitar down to the folk clubs.
During subsequent conversations, Rob told me he really wanted to do some recording, to create a library of the dance tunes and also to work on a project together, to try and fuse melodeon based tunes with a sort of progressive feel. We started jamming together, where I discovered that Rob was entirely self-taught and was unaware of any music “theory” which would often get him into hot water with Morris purists but fitted quite perfectly into what we started to call “Prog Morris” and his feel for what fitted a tune (or mood) I have never heard, on the melodeon, since. It wasn’t until 1996 that I acquired suitable recording tech to make the plan a reality and over the next couple of years, we tried out various things and sometimes, like a lot of “studio” sessions, a jam session resulted in something worth “putting down”. We had several sessions with Jayne Bowd (on fiddle) and occasionally Jon Fox on recorders (he could make them really sing!). Eventually we had enough work down for an album and the concept of Frost & Fire was born. Sadly, I personally had gone through a bit of a rough patch and had to leave Peterborough for work, so the tunes never got mastered and some not even finished, so Rob was left with some mixed down tapes and not the digitally mastered finals we had envisioned.
Undeterred, Rob pressed on and digitally processed the tapes and produced fantastic artwork (as was his wont). The result was “Frost and Fire”. He sent me a couple of copies of the CD in 2003 and little did I know he would leave us just 5 short years later. Something I didn’t actually find out until 2020, in the middle of the COVID pandemic. At the same time as finding out Rob had passed, Tony got in touch to tell me he had found a couple of CDs of Rob playing short snippets of some of his dance tunes (Well 25 to be factual!). Clearly the “library” Rob was hoping to create. When Tony sent them up to me, strangely they had only been recorded on the left-hand side. After sorting out the sidedness, I was inspired to write some arrangements and the result is “Shorts” another CD. I also remastered the Frost & Fire album and was able to finish it the way Rob and I had intended. I wonder if 20 years to finish an album is some kind of record? It will be to my lasting regret that Rob will not hear them. It has been an absolute privilege to have known such an outstanding “natural” musician and to have been able to do something to preserve his legacy. I will miss my friend and tunesmith.
John Foreman